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>> you did? >> i did. i did. >> if you're going to go back and look at all the tapes and things you have 15said over the years about betsy -- >> i think she would be okay with me saying this, i took the liberty to say it, i caled you crazy, i called you a bitch, but i never called you fat. >> i guess we know why i was all these years putting up with that? how would you act? sweet as apple pie? >> the idea that somehow not calling you fat is any kind of -- >> consolation? >> yeah, when i heard that, my jaw dropped. >> he shouldn't have done oprah. this was too big to -- he shouldn't have gone on here. this was going to be a long process for him but he's approaching it the wrong way. what that exchange right there,
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it has me furious. bill, help me out, i mean what is going through his mind? >> it's fascinating to me that betsy and i have been talking about the exchanges, and it's just fascinating to me that he took that step, which everyone would think would be the hardest, to say i doepd, i cheated, it was all a lie, but when it comes to details about other people, he can't quite get himself there. >> ah, but there's part two still tonight. >> thanks for watching, have a great weekend. newsroom international starts right now. welcome to news international. we're taking you around the world in 60 minutes, we're covering two big stories of the day. >> i view this situation as one big lie.
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>> after years of denials, lance armstrong admits now to using performance-enhancing drugs to win his seven tour de france titles. we'll take a closer look at armstrong's interview with oprah winfrey and talk with experts about whether this admission is going to help or hurt the brand. but first the deadly hostage situation in algeria. the army has freed some 650 people from islamist militants in a remolt oil field. moats of the freed are algerian. the u.s. is in the process right now of evacuating the americans and other foreign nationals of the rescue. >> as much as i would like to be out, some of our colleagues are
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safe for the moment. >> i feel safe for the moment. >> americans are believed to be among the missing still. this is day three of the bloody siege. the effort to rescue remaining hostages. i want to bring in vlad, we understand this is happening in various locations near the plant. >> reporter: so the large scale operations to rescue the hostages from the gas plant in eastern algeria has ended but there is still some ongoing activity at the plant possibly to root out some terrorists who may still be hiding within the plant which is a fairly large
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and sprawling complex. but what we understand from the algerian press service is that the reason that the algerians decided to conduct this operation yesterday was they felt the terrorists were on the verge of taking the hostages out of the country. so they launched this operate to rescue these hostages, without warning the -- they were able as you mentioned to rescue 650 hostages, 573 of those hostages are algerian and they have been able to rescue 132 foreign nationals, 100 of those nationals have been rest cued. prime minister david cameron has said that these attackers, the people that are behind these attacks were well armed, this was a well coordinated attack. so the rationale that the attackers gave for attacking the hostages in the first place was france's ability to conduct
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military operations in mali's air space doesn't necessarily ring true. >> do we know the conditions of those who were rescued? >> there's an incredible story of one irish national, his brother gave an interview where he said his brother who was one of the hostages who managed to escape yesterday, he had duct tape on his mouth, he was blindfolded, he had roaches on his hands and he had plastic explosives around his neck. he managed to escape and when news came to his family, this is what he had to say about this. sorry we don't have that sound, but his son essentially said he can't pate for his father to come home and give him a big hug and never let him go. that's just one family's story
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that turned out in a good way. but prime minister david scam r cameron warned the british people that there's more bad news ahead. many of the western countries have said to themselves that they're not all together certain what is happening hour by hour. but i'm told that we have that sound of young dylan. he's 13-year-old dylan mccfaul. >> i just wanted to get help.
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>> but he's coming home. >> i'll never let him go back there. >> and what's the first thing you'll do when you see him? >> give him a big hug and never let go. >> reporter: even when you hear that sound bite, suzanne, when i hear it again, it makes my heart skip a beat. tears of joy for one family, but prime minister david cameron has said that for others there may be some difficult days ahead. >> it makes me tear up the, but we hope for the best for the rest that are being held hostage.
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the president is in constant contact with the algerian government, he's getting regular updates about that hostage situation. in london today leon panetta had warnings for those who are taking hostages. >> warnings should be on notice that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, anywhere. those who would wantonly attack our country and our people have no place to hide. >> we just heard from secretary panetta about this warning that he is giving, but essentially what is it that the united states is doing about that? >> well, they and the british
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government have said sort of diplomatic rapid reaction forces to algeria, essentially to support the hostages that have been released, people that are trained in trauma and counseling and you can expedite things like passports that may be lost in the firefight and the chaos that ensued. but they haven't really been given access directly to the sites. this british plane anyway has gone to an airfield, that's about 250 kilometers north of the gas field. so they're being kept a long way back and there is clear frustration both here in london and in washington with the communication or lack of communication by the algerians. >> we don't know how many americans have been evacuated. do we have a sense of why
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there's been no information? >> largely because there's -- the al jeer yiians don't have a firm grip on what's going on. they're not passing on in a timely matter. the algerians went in yesterday without informing the brits or the americans and that caused i think a lot of irritation, you could hear him talking almost through gritted teeth in parliament that that operation went ahead without him knowing about it. >> let's listen to the prime minister. >> the algerian forces mounted an operation. mr. speaker, we were not informed of this in advance. the terrorists have tried to flee and they judge that to be
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an immediate threat to the lives of the hostages and had felt obliged to respond. >> are the brits accepting that explanation from algeria? >> i think they have got to take it at face value, but clearly, i don't think he would have raised that point were there not quite a bit of irritation behind the scenes but how this is being handled. there's been constantly changing numbers on how many hostages we're talking about, how many kidnappers they think are there. now we know it's not under control, there are still terrorists holdouts and there are still possibly up to 32 hostages unaccounted for. >> all right, dan, please keep us informed if you find out any additional information, any updates there. and of course another big story that we're covering, this the story everybody is talking about today, lance armstrong telling
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everybody about his doping. >> was it a big deal to you? did it feel wrong? >> at the time? no. >> it did not even feel wrong? >> scary. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. it's lots of things. all waking up. connecting to the global phenomenon
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yes or no, did you everybody take ban substances to enhance your performance?
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>> yes. >> was one of those banned substances epo? >> yes. >> did you ever use blood transfusions to enhance your performance? >> yes. >> did you ever use testosterone, cortizone or human growth hormone to enhance your performance. >> yes. >> did you ever take banned substances or blood dope? >> yes. >> in your opinion was it human by possible to win the tour de france without doping? seven times in a row? >> not in my feeling. >> armstrong's straight forward yes or no answers, a far cry from the antagonistic answers earlier on his career. >> for 13 years, you didn't just deny it, you brazenly and
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question findly denied everything you just admitted just now. so why now admit it? >> that's the best question, that's the most logical question. >> uh-huh. >> i don't me that i have a great answer. i will start my answer by saying that this is too late. it's too late for probably most people and that's my fault. i viewed this situation as one big lie. that i repeated a lot of times. >> this is lance armstrong when he talked about what he called his myth. it was the moment that he made it to the top of the cycling world and the possibility expectations that came along with it. >> i know the truth. the truth isn't what was out
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there, the truth isn't what i said. and now it's gone, this story was so perfect for so long, and i mean that as i try to take myself out of the situation and i look at it, you work on the disease, you win the tour de france seven times, you have a happy marriage, you have children. it's just this mythic, perfect story. and it wasn't true. >> and that was not true. >> and that was not true on a lot of levels. >> lance armstrong making headlines all over the world. in lemond, where armstrong won his seven tour de france titles just says ample strong admits lies. armstrong comes clean. and on the front pages of papers in belgium today, another country where people take their cycling very seriously.
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the headlines reads, the confession of lance armstrong, i have laid it all out on the table. all of this is image, the damaged legacy, what is next. and melissa, you wrote a book as well about the grand lie of lance armstrong. i find this so disturbing, it makes me mad, seriously. he almost doesn't seem remorseful. but how important is that for him to be remorseful? does he stand a second chance when it comes to remaking his brand? >> the brand that we know today is lance armstrong i believe is dead. and i believe at this point that it's very critical that he thinks about reconstructive surgery. and what i mean by that is that people who are very successful or are very high perform hers,
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miscon true the m misconstrue their identity. they define who they are by what they do. my thought is even his fight with cancer probably prepared him for the biggest fight of his life to reclaim his name. he's a fierce competitor and i think he's been looking for opportunities to compete with others as a driver for his whole persona, now the competition is inside. now it's time to answer the hard questions, who was i before i became the world renowned athlete lance armstrong. who did i hurt? how do i go back and restore those relationships. at the end of the day, the reputation won't keep you where your character will cause you to fall back. >> what's his brand now do you think? it's just like, oh, he can't stand it. >> liar, a liar is a liar in every language.
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that's the brand that people are associated with him right now. he's got to by about how he's going to begin to change the conversation about who he is. >> this is a bit of the interview with oprah winfrey, this is all about the fact that he got away with it. >> how were you able to do it? i mean you talked a bit about the culture and there are all kinds of stories out that you were going to confess, you were going to talk to me, but you weren't going to tell me everything, we said no holds bars. how was it done? you said it was smart but it wasn't the most sophisticatesop what we have read, what we have heard, is it true, motor man dropping off epo? >> that's true. >> were you blood doping in the stage 11 of the 2000 tour, stopping at a hotel, tyler hamilton says you stopped at a hotel. >> i'm getting confused on the
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stages, but certainly that was -- >> in the middle of the tour, tyler hamilton said that there would be times when you all were injecting epo in a camper or in a tent and right outside the fans would be outside and you all would be dumping the syringes in coke cans, is that true? >> i didn't read tyler's book. i don't necessarily remember that. but i'm certainly not going to say that's a lie, that's not true. >> he says he doesn't remember that. the more he confesses, we know he's a liar. how does -- how do you believe anything that he says going forward? is that possible to change that in any way when you look at his brand and who he is? >> when you have look at heroes
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in pop culture, the key is that they need to acknowledge the truth, which he's done. i think the next step is stepping back to rehabilitate, really asking the hard questions, getting in touch with who they are, stepping forward and saying what is my new life going to be? i don't know that it's ever going to be an athlete. but he can be a teacher, he's someone who can share a story of what he's learned. >> the one thing that i thought was striking is that he said i'm going to have to live with this for the rest of my life. he still seems to me as someone who has a victim mentality. woe is me, i'm going to have to work on this for the rest of my life. i'm going to have to rehabilitate. >> it's a process, he's been living a lie for many years, so now he's come to truth about who he really s that's a process, but i believe his brand can turn around but it's going to be
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different. and he's going to allow time for credibility is the biggest barrier to building a brand. >> all right, thank you very much, great to have you, really appreciate it. thanks against. you are seeing scenes now from the movie god loves uganda, it is a shocking look at american evangelicals on crusade for what they call sexual sin, it results in a bill that would make homosexuality punishable by death in the east african country. we're going to talk to the man behind this amazing documentary. from a devastating tornado. man: and now we're helping the east coast recover from hurricane sandy. we're a leading global insurance company, based right here in america. we've repaid every dollar america lent us. everything, plus a profit of more than $22 billion. for the american people. thank you, america. helping people recover and rebuild -- that's what we do. now let's bring on tomorrow.
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that is the sound of syrian jets reportedly carrying out an air strike in the town of rabin. rebel frighters apparently firing at troops loyal to presidential assad. an opposition group says 125 people were killed today across syria. an opposition group says regime forces unleashed a bloody assault in and around homes killing more than 100 civilians. but witnesses say the massacre was not carried out by government troops. to find out what really happened. >> they're fighting on the edge of palms, where 5,000 people have been killed so far.
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a toll that's just gone up, dramatically. something terrible has just happened here. >> covered by an armored vehicle, we walked to haswea, a scene of a massacre, both sides agree dozens were killed here, after that they agree on nothing. the opposition says that 116 people were killed in these streets, men, women and children shot and burned to death. they say forces loyal to the regime did this. local men came out of hiding, they haven't seen each other since the fighting began. each one had a story of loved ones murdered. but they claim it wasn't the regime who killed in cold blood, it was rebels. you are saying the army did not commit a massacre? >> no, it was armed men, rebels, dressed in black, they say.
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they say the gunmen were from a fundamentalist group linked to al qaeda. a woman and fife children were shot dead here and then their bodies burned allegedly because they tried to stop the gunman using the roof as a firing position. five children, the oldest was 7 years old? >> i can't prove any of these accounts, i saw no bodies. the men said around 30 people have been killed. the army commander denied killing civilians. >> then the troops brought out two men they said they would find with a gun, the men shook with fear. one clasped his hands until a soldier's burning cigarette made him move them. the gun was an american weapon. the men's fate was unclear.
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this woman knows the fate of her family. the armed man killed my three children, she says. they came at night, i couldn't tell who they were. we're just farmers. now we have nothing. the regime warplanes circled overhead, the fight against rebels in haswea is still going on. the governor of homs is one of president assad's men. he said that civilians were killed, he called it a massacre. but he says al qaeda linked rebels did this. no, no our forces did not kill those civilians. i can't say who did. but everyone's agreed, dozens are dead, another mass killing in a dirty war. ♪
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for 12 months today. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? this is a film that many of you are going to be talking about. take a listen. all right, what you're watching these are scenes from god loves uganda. it's a powerful documentary about american evangelicals pushing for strict biblical law in a country of almost 3 million people. it also spotlights the role of uganda's christian and political leaders in trying to eliminate
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what they call sexual sin. the document friday was directed by -- i want to talk about this because this is such a provocative, provocative film here. you start off in the documentary, showing the good here, how these american pastors, these missionaries, they build orphanages, and hospitals and then they pay dearly for all this generosity. >> i don't want to say that all these evangelicals are cast in a bad light. there's some evangelicals who are preaching a message of hate and intolerance and i think it's important for americans to imagine where their money is going when they put their money into the collection plate on sunday. >> there are some very shock
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ways that they demonize homosexuality. give us the specifics. >> yes, the documentary shows some american evangelicals who are often extremists in america and are outside of the main stream who are going to uganda and because they are from america and they represent so much, they represent hope and money and power and influence, they represent -- scott lively went to uganda and addressed the parliament for five hours on the threat of homosexuality. there are americans there who are going there and preaching intolerance and hatred and not understanding that they're going into a culture that when that message is accepted that people sort of take the law into their own hands and it becomes very dangerous. >> speak of the details here. there are things in the documentary that are very shocking in terms of what they claim, if you are gay or involved in a same-sex
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relationship that happens to the community and to themselves. explain this to us. what did you see? >> you know, every, you know, in uganda, gays, lesbians, trans and bisexuals -- proposed law that's possibly going to be passed soon, it's in front of the parliament, that, you know, has him prisonments and possibly even the death penalty for second offenders for homosexuality. this is all being pushed by religious leaders in uganda who have close dies to americans. the biggest pastor, the biggest anti-gay pastor in uganda, shows gay porn in -- frenzy of hatred. >> tell us why uganda, tell us why you pick uganda?
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>> uganda is unique, it has the largest population on the planet. after edie amine fell, there was a background, american evangelicals moved in and built schools and hospitals and did a lot of great things for uganda, but a lot of people in my film talk about how they thought they were losing the cultural war in america and that africa offered this possibility and for 30 years they built an infrastructure there so ugandans love what they have done for them, but they come with this message too. >> roger, i understand that your life has been in danger as well. tell us how. >> i'm out in uganda, i'm a gay man and a bunch of the anti-gay pastors confronted maine on being married, nothing compared
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to africans fighting the battle every day. i received more than one e-mail threatening me. it's a little disconcerting. >> did he actually threaten your life. >> yeah. yeah. well he said he would take care of me, whenever that means, he's one of the most vocal, win of the guys who actually wrote the anti-sexuality bill in uganda, so i was a little afraid. but they decided they would pray the gay away instead of hurting me. and they prayed over me a lot. and a lot of that message of praying the gay away comes straight out of the american prayer book with many evangelicals believing that gay people are sexually broken and they need to be cured. >> has there been any response from the evangelical community from your documentary or what
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you have presented that has come out of ugandyouganda? >> the evangelicals in my film, i try to get a cross section of evangelicals who are spewing hate and evangelicals who are innocently spreading the word and doing what they feel is right in uganda, so it's not all evangelicals who are doing bad things here. and i want to be clear on that. but i have gotten some pretty harsh responses from many of the anti-gay pastors in uganda. >> good to see you and a very provocative documentary and up for an award at sundance world premier. one man in the media heard that wraths of armstrong more than most, david walsh from the sunday times was the first to publicly accuse armstrong of
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cheating. >> he never showed any compassion during his years or any sense that it troubled him to destroy other people. and if you ask the people involved in this story, which do you think was worse? lance's doping or lance's bullying? everybody who was involved in this story would tell you his bullying. o.♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it.
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one of the first journalists who investigated doping allegations against armstrong, armstrong won a million dollar settlement. >> during that very first tour, i was convinced he was doping
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amend then when i went and started asking questions and do investigations, it was just layer upon layer of evidence, remarkably, people were so slow to tune into it. but i don't feel any vindication, just satisfaction that the people who were telling the truth in the early days and their reward for telling the truth was none more than vilify indication. >> did he go far enough and if he did it, is it bhaz reece worried about criminal charges. >> i think he was -- he didn't want to think about mckelly ferrari, he's going to have to. he didn't speak about his team manager who many people believe was arrested to the whole program. this sufficient he's going to have to deal with, and this incident shouldn't have taken place in the first instance, which oprah winfrey, this should have taken place with the world
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anti-doping body, or the world anti- -- he should have sat down with those guys and given them chapter and verse. >> last the biggest punishment for lance armstrong? >> i think the greatest punishment is the loss of his reputation, the sense that -- when i interviewed him in 1993, he was age 21, he was in his first tour. and i really liked the guy, because he had a drive that i thought was just commendable, admirable, likeable, and i had this sense of getting into the lift of the ground floor with a guy who was going up and as a sports journalist, he excited me. now that guy wanted to be somebody more than anything else, single parent, you know, desperate to show i could come from this background and i could be somebody. he no now realizes he's a nobody, or worse, he's known to be the greatest cheat maybe that sport has ever known.
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you are not worth the chair that you're sitting on with a statement like that, with a disease that touches everybody around the world. as a society, are we supposed to forgive and forgot and let people get back to their job? absolutely? i'm not sure i will ever forgive you for that statement. >> wow, for the first time, lance armstrong is not denying a thing, did he shoot up himself with illegal drugs? yes. did he lie about it? yes. could he have won so many
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championships without cheating, no. lance armstrong opens up to oprah winfrey about how he never got caught. >> drug testing has changed, evolved. at the old days, they test it a the races, they didn't come to your house, they didn't come to your training camps. they tested at the race. that's shifted a lot. so now the emphasis of testing which is right, which is out of competition races. >> and there was no testing for epo. >> and that was no testing outside of the races. and for most of my career, there wasn't that much of that. so two things changed. >> that much of what? >> what wasn't that much out of competition testing. >> uh-huh. >> so you're not going to get caught. >> uh-huh. >> you know? because you're clean at the races. >> joining me now is the sports
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editor for the nation, writes his own column at edgeofsports.com. we all watched this oprah winfrey interview and one of the things that he seemed to say is that he gained a system and he gained it successfully and it kind of caught up with him. do you get a sense from this interview that inevitably he was just going to be called and he was guilty to begin with? >> i have never seen such a transactional interview of a person in my life. another person said it was less a confession and more a long justification. that was not what lance armstrong needed to do yesterday. in many respects,e esit was the worst -- he was trying to show that he was ready to play ball, he was going to validate their years of investigation and their millions of federal tax dollars that were spent to build a case against him and he also wanted
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to be able to rebuild his public image. yet he did neither of those things, he challenged the heart of the anti-doping agency's report was that he actually led and facilitated the use on his cycling team. then the second part of that was even worse because he admitted to bullying, he seemed callous, he seemed rep tillian. it was the sort of thing where anybody who tuned in because they wanted to see contrition, remorse, i don't think people should have to do the contrition cabuki theater, but you don't call up oprah winfrey to do an interview unless you're going to do the oprah winfrey interview. >> does he stand a chance in your mind of ever rehabilitating himself, his image or his career in the sports world? >> let's take the competition piece, you saw it has a lifetime
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ban on him. the condition for that being removed is him testifying under oath to usada and being willing to name corrupt officials or corrupt cyclist, and he made it clear to oprah winfrey that that was something he wasn't going to do. about rehabilitating his image, it's hard to imagine how he does that. we tend to be a forgiving industry, but there's always that period where they need to put all their cards out on the table and that is something that as of last night, he certainly did not look like he was ready to do. >> dave, what are you going to be looking for in the second part of the interview? >> i'm going to look to see if the cracks dissolve a little bit. it made he feel like they were trying to race up the pyrenees smgt or something. yet he's not on the pyrenees,
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frightening moment for a rub shan firefighter. he was trying to reach people inside a burning building, when a chunk of snow fell from the roof almost knocking him off the ladder. we are happy to report that the firefighters went on a rescue to a child trapped inside that building and so everybody got out okay. and the mona lisa went on an outer space trip. achieving a scientific first, nasa spent a laser beam of the iconic painting 240 miles to space. by using lasers, nasa says it's on the verge of speeding up all data delivery around the solar system. two fisher enin australia
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had a close encounter with a greet white. >> we start the engine, you just had that running. >> 13-foot shark nudged the small fishing boat off victor victoria's southwest coast, the men were fishing for smaller sharks, when the great white put his nose on the edges. if you're wondering what the fishermen decided to do about it, they simply powered up the motor and took off when they what had enough. before we talk about lance armstrong's interview with oprah winfrey, we have dramatic new developments in the deadly hostage crisis. state media says the army has freed some 650 people from islamist militants in a remote oil field. most of those freed are algerian, but they are americans among the rescued and still among the missing. the effort to free the remaining
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hostages is still going. give us an update here, barbara, this is day three of this siege. what do we know? are people still being killed? are people still being held hostage and what is the state of americans? >> as you say day three, total confusi confusing, but many western governments who have citizens involved in this situation also being very careful, not wanting to say much publicly because there still are hostages at the site. the algerian forces are still there, still trying to get control of this station, what we do know is that the united states is trying to evacuate perhaps 10 to 20 would bed and other hostages from the site, get them out of there, get them back to europe and then get them on to their home countries and families. the british prime minister david cameron this morning, suzanne, in the house of commons said the
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situation remained very fluid, very uncertain and still very dangerous. >> we heard from the secretary of defense leon panetta today saying -- >> this is the problem right now for the united states and other countries, al qaeda in north africa, perhaps the new frontier for al qaeda cells and affiliates, but many of these places are very remote areas, very difficult to get to, and the case is, we are seeing in algeria, that government does not want outside military help. it's one thing for the secretary of defense to say there's no sanctuary, that the u.s. will go after these al qaeda terrorists, how are you going to get over there with limited force and how are you going to get to these countries to undertake military operations is a whole other question. this is likely to be a very serious ongoing issue now for some time to come. now this, a new report out
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today by the cdc says that the flu season is now getting worse. 48 states are now reporting widespread flu activity. now widespread means more than half of the counties in a state have flu activity. 30 states are reporting high levels of the flu, up from 24 last week. hospitalizations for the elderly have gone up significantly, nine more children have died bringing the total since flu season began does not count. and today, we have a very different story from the man who was once the most celebrated sports champion in the world. for years we heard this. >> how could it have taken place when i have never taken performance-enhancing drugs? how could that have happen. >> that's my point, it's not simply that you don't recall. >> how many times do i have to say it? >> i'm just trying to make sure your testimony is clear. >> if it is clear that i have
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never taken drugs how could it be an incident like that. >> here's lance armstrong coming clean. >> did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no. was one of those banned substances epo? >> yes. >> so lance armstrong said yes, he cheated to win, he lied to the world when everybody was asking about it. i want to get to dave ziren who's here who writes his own sports column. does it help him at all that he comes clean to oprah winfrey at this point in his career? >> it's difficult for several reasons, first and foremost, you couldn't watch that interview and think that he was sorry, not that he did it but that he got caught. he even said that explicitly, if he hadn't tried to come back a few years ago, he wouldn't have
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been sitting in that chair right now. he could have retired as a great american icon. i thought a startling and underreported admission by him. it was very cold as well. if i wasn't caught, i wouldn't be here, as if there was no greater good to coming forward. the second thing is that it's very difficult for an athlete to come back from scandal when they're basically already retired. lance armstrong is 41 years old. there's no more trips through the pyrenees in the the tour de france. if you're michael vick and you can still play quarterback when you come back. if you erie lewis, the great linebacker for new orleans, if you're charged with an access - your scandal occurs at the end of your career, there is no going back to the playing field and having it absolve all your
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sins, there's really nowhere for lance to go on a competitive basis, so that mai makes it difficult for him to come into the public's grace. >> maybe he does do some triathlons, if he decides to do that, is there any way that he could actually fool people again, that he might be able to cheat again if he wanted to? >> well, like jennifer anniston said on friends, once a cheater, and i think that's going to be people's expectation at the very start. it's going to be guilty until proven innocent for him for the rest of his days, no matter where it is in the public eye. whether it's a career in politics, whether it's something that he's interested in. or whether it's trying to reassume a place on the board of his cancer foundation, live strong. these things are going to be much more difficult roads for him to travel down and the starting point for him coming back to any sort of meaningful
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public life in this country is contrition. i mean is being able to understand that you actually harmed other people, that you actually took away hours and days from people's lives who worried that you were going to sue them, to bankrupt them, that you were going to use the weight of your power to make their lives unbearable and you just did not get the sense in that interview last night, even though i felt like oprah was throwing him softball after softball to actually express those kinds of emotions, he wasn't going to do it. >> let's talk about the part where he explains the myth, the fact that the expectations were so high and that he was at the top of his career. >> i know the truth. the truth isn't what was out there, the truth isn't what i said. and now it's gone, this story was so perfect for so long. >> uh-huh.
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>> and i mean that as i try to take mice out of this situation and i look at it, you overcome the disease, you win the tour de france seven times, you have a happy marriage, you have children, it's just this mythic perfect story and it wasn't true. >> and that wasn't true? sfwla? and that wasn't true on a lot of levels. >> he seems to have an explanation for all of this, that somehow the expectations were just too high, that he couldn't back out of his story once he had gone down that path. >> it's difficult to be too sympathetic to that. for many of us, it would have been victory enough if he had just come back from cancer. many families are not that lucky. if he had been able to be satisfied with that. and then to use his place as a cyclist, maybe not a seven-time tour de france winner, but to be able to raise excitement about the sport, maybe not meet with the president of the united states as he often did with fellow texan george w. bush but
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it could have meant that he didn't have to end up in the oprah chair at this point. and that's sat because a lot of people in my family who would have been willing to love lance armstrong no matter what because of the work he did on cancer, it was very painful to see last night, not because he cheated, but because he didn't quite get the equation of what he meant to people. and if he did, it's not only that he wouldn't have acted this way in the last several years, he would never have responded to the questions like he did last night. >> we're going to be watching part two on this interview with lance armstrong. now that he's come clean, could he face criminal charges for coming clean? we're going to take a look at what could be next for lance armstrong. and after last night's interview, live strong gave the following statement. we at the live strong foundation are disappoint by the news that lance armstrong misled people
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during and after his cycling career, even us. in the wake of our disappointment, we also express our gratitude to lance as a survivor for the drive, devotion and spirit for helping the cancer community. >> on twitter, i want to bring this for you. the catholic church should induct oprah into the hall of fame, not even the pope could get a confession like that. a hospital patient tweets, i'm happy people fighting cancer benefitted from the sheer arrogance and agree of lance. and unpopular opinion, but i have done what was necessary to win if everyone around me was doing the same. rich chambers tweets, did anyone come away from lance's interview feeling sorry for the guy or believing that his image could
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be repaired? i doubt it. coming up in 30 minutes, piers morgan also interviewing lance armstrong's former teammate tyler hamilton. here's what we're working on as well for this hour. did she or didn't she exist and did manti te'o know? questions still swirl around the heisman trophy running up. >> why would manti te'o knowing this person was real continue to talk about her as if she were a real person after she, quote, unquote died. >> the latest on the manti te'o hoax. and a shadow industry operatings in the suburbs of los angeles. women from other countries coming to the united states to give it birth. and we're just days away from president obama officially kicking off his second term. he will swear in with marilyn
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er. manti -- that was not necessarily the case. susan candiotti has been speaking to folks on campus. do we have any more answers for this very strange story as to
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whether or not this girl ever actually existed? >> reporter: the only real answers we hope to get is when manti te'o finally decides to stay something and we don't know yet what that's going to be, but around campus, people still say this is a great guy, a role model for kids. we talked to a sports officer who said there was rumblings on campus way back in september when manti initially said that his girlfriend had died. there was a lot of talk about it back then. >> no one was really inquiring into this relationship status before. they didn't went wonder whou what was going or anything. when they -- a lot of news from the people around him, players and friends, the talk around campus that he had never actually met this girlfriend. so how substantial could that relationship be. >> reporter: the bottom line is,
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suzanne, everyone wants to hear directly from manti te'o. >> we know there were questions about this before, but we really didn't know about -- we didn't hear about the story until very recently, how does the school explain it? >> that's right, where they said that at a news briefing earlier in the week, te'o found out about it earlier in the week, didn't tell the university about it until a good 20 days later after christmas. then notre dame said it conducted it's own investigation which took them about ten days. finally they turned over that information to te'o's parents and were hoping to hear from him. listen to what notre dame had to say. >> there was not an intention of believe that this would be a story that would get told. we knew it would. we hoped the first person to tell it would be manti.
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and we thought that was going to happen at the beginning of last week. but he didn't get to that having had someone else tell the story, but at least he'll have the opportunity to talk about it in the future. >> reporter: so he didn't get a chance to say it before a sports block revealed the story. and notre dame revealed during their press briefing saying that they had uncovered information that te'o was not the only target. they said their investigators turned up this information by looking at tweets and other information. but they said they didn't concentrate on that because they were only directing their attention and focusing on te'o. so we don't know what other targets it is that they're talking about. >> do we know when we might hear from him directly? >> i talked with his agent, just this morning and they have no timetable yet. >> all right, susan candiotti, thank you, susan.
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quietly catering to pregnant women like this one. we just want to chat with you a little bit about what brings you here? who are they? they wouldn't respond to cnn's request for comment, but they're just one of many businesses that publicly advertises its services to chinese mothers to be. they advertise to parents, offer a step by step guide to obtain a u.s. visa and then arrange travel to cushy, inviting u.s. homes where nurses and doctors will care for the mother. it's called birth tourism. dozens of these houses are operating in california, in the shadows of the suburbs of l.a., they pay thousands and they help you obtain sen ship for your newborn. have you been inside? >> yes. >> reporter: arrest her cheyne lives next door to what he calls
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a maternity hotel. why would a chinese mother come all the way to america to give birth? >> citizenship. >> reporter: if people from main line china get an american passpo passport, their life can be different, access to american education and once their child turns 18, they can help others get green cards and become u.s. citizens. neighborhood protests have sprung up around the states. local authorities have busted some of these houses for code violences, but not for so-called birth tourism, that's because under current federal laws it's not illegal. >> they are legally barred being denied a visa because someone is pregnant. >> a family who lives in beijing travelled to a u.s. maternity hotel so fran seen could be born in america. dad is a naturalized u.s. citizen and says he understands why chinese citizens come to the
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u.s. to give birth. >> they pay the fee, they got a visa, they do it legally, so some people are upset, saying the chinese are taking advantage of these services. well considering certain people in america are taking advantage of chinese services here in china. >> back at this house, workers continue to move in baby items, prep for meals and this shadow industry continues to thrive out in the open. >> kim law, cnn, rolling heights, california kravmt. lance armstrong comes clean, but he leaves a path of lies behind him. we'll find out who he's hurt and how he constant denials can bring more to the conversation. >> after what you have done to me, what you have done to my family and you couldn't own up to it and now we're supposed to believe you? free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free.
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lance armstrong's doping admissions could open him up to lawsuits and legal problems as well. armstrong admits to using performance-enhancing drugs. >> were you afraid of getting caught? >> no. drug testing has changed, it's evolved. at the old days they tested at the races. they didn't come to your house, they didn't come to training camps. they tested you at the race. that's shifted a lot. so now the emphasis of the testing, which is right, is out of competition testing. >> in 1999, there wasn't even a test for epo.
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>> and there was no testing outside of competition. theoretically there may have been, but they never came. and during most of my career there wasn't that much of that. >> that much of what? >> that much of out of competition testing, so you're not going to get caught, you know? because you're clean at the races. >> so armstrong admitted he bullied people as well, retall yalted against those who accused him of doping, but he denied pushing other teammates to dope as well. here's what he says. >> were you the one in charge? >> well, i was the top rider, i was the leader of the team. i wasn't the general manager, the director. >> but if someone was not doing something to your satisfaction, could you get them fired? >> it depends what they're doing. if you're asking me somebody on the team says i'm not going to
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dope and i say, you're fired? >> yes. >> absolutely not. >> could you -- >> could i, i don't know i never did. the leader of any team leads by example and there was never a direct order or a directive that says you have to do this if you want on the tour, if you want to be on the team. that never happened. it was a competitive time. we were all grown men, we all made our choices. but there were people on the team that chose not to. >> want to bring in our legal analyst sonny hostin to talk about the liability that lance armstrong could face. let's talk about the possibility of criminal charges. there was a federal investigation, it was dropped. could that first of all be revisited, and if so, what kind of charges could he face? >> i this there's no question that the government will be looking to perhaps resurrect
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that investigation. because they did shut it down in february. and we don't know why, suzanne, typically wen a prosecutor decides not to prosecute a case, you don't really get a reason why. so it's quite possible. and if i was a prosecutor looking at this, i would be looking at whether or not he forced others to dope. and so you're sort of looking at sort of pushing illegal drugs, almost drug trafficking, you're looking at money laundering, those kinds of charges. i would suspect that the government in light of this con consideration-- >> not only destroyed by lance armstrong, i want you to listen to this, this is the wife of one of arm strong's former teammates, what she told anderson cooper. >> you would say that he wasn't general manager, that he never forced people to do it, he never directed anybody to do it, to
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dope? >> okay, then why did they make sure that franky's contract wasn't renewed in 2000 when he wanted to see ferrari and he said no, no, no, franky rode the 2000 career, the vast majority of his tour was clean. he lost his job and his career was derailed. that's -- that's going up against lance armstrong. going up a decade of being excoriated by him. i was willing to give him a chance. and this is how he responds? it just doesn't make sense. >> so sonny, for the former teammates, should they come back and sue him? >> i think there's no question that the civil litigation that we're going to see in this case is going to explode, suzanne. if you're talking about someone intersphering with their livelihood, defaming you, taking you down, there's no question that that i think is lance armstrong's real problem. is he going to go to prison?
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a lot of folks are talking about perjury charges because he did testify under oath and certain cases. well, the statute of limitations on perjury is five years so a lot of that opportunity to prosecute him for perjury is over. the real problem that i think that lance armstrong is the civil cases, the one case brought by floyd landis that is still pending, i mean he's looking for about $30 million and there are triple damages in that case. now you're talking about a $90 million case. and you're talking about all these other potential lawsuits against him because he not only brazenly and defiantly denied these accusations of doping, he also attacked these other people and took them down.
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he sued them for libel and won. is that paper going to go after him for about $1.5 million? no question. so i think the list is going to go on and on and on in terms of people suing him. piers morgan said that sitting down with lance armstrong's former teammate, tyler hamilton, what he thinks armstrong needs to do in terms of apologizing. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] some day, your life will flash before your eyes. ♪ make it worth watching. ♪ the new 2013 lexus ls. an entirely new pursuit. stress sweat is different than ordinary sweat. it smells worse. get 4x the protection against stress sweat.
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tyler, you're one of the most fascinating people to talk to about this because you've been saying for a long time that armstrong doped. finally you got vindication, it came out of his own mouth. where were you when you saw it? >> my wife melinda and i were over here at a friend's house. the motel room didn't have the own network. so i was watching at a friend's house and i never expected this day would come. >> did you feel shocked, saddened, angry, all those
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things? >> i'm not really angry anymore. i have been through this whole process, you know, i know where lance sort of is today, on a smaller scale, a much smaller scale, i kind of feel what lance is going through today. >> was he finally telling the truth from your knowledge? >> parts of the truth. >> were there bits where you thought he's still lying, even to himself? >> number one, i think oprah did a great job, i love where she opened it up with the yes/no answers. i was safsd with those yes/no answers. just because he has made the first steps. there are many more steps for lance armstrong. >> when he talked about the allegation that he's a bully. let's watch this. >> were you a bully? >> yeah, yeah i was a bully. >> tell me how you were a bully.
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>> i was a bully in the sense that you just, that i tried to control the narrative and if i didn't like what somebody said, and for whatever reasons in my own head, whether i viewed that as somebody being disloyal or a friend turning on you or whatever, i tried to control that, saying that's a lie, they're liars. >> your reaction to that? >> it's nice to finally hear him own up to some of his faults. >> in a way, he kind of emerges as a sort of bernie madoff character, where people in his club were finally able to be honest. you said when you were a young racer, to start with you weren't allowed in the doping club, and when you were, you thought, now i'm able to compete at the higher honor. >> it was almost like i was
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accepted into the fraternitity. and once they thought i was good enough, they brought me in. >> lance armstrong, i think he's a biggest cheat in sporting history, i think he's crushed many people's dreams. i thi he's sued and won millions of dollars off. the thing i thought about the interview, he said i don't even really think of him as a cheat, what i was doing is what everybody else was doing? what do you think of that argument? >> i think he was basically trying to say it was an even playing field, we were all doping, more or less and we were all doing the same things. but that's not true. the -- it had a lot to do with money, it had a lot to do with connections, it had a lot to do with whether you're a risk taker or not. you could have been the best athlete in the world, but if you didn't function well under high
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prosecutor, you know, would have taken risks, then you're going to be in the back of the pack. >> there was a moment when he talked directly about you. let's watch this. >> we said no holds barred. how was it done? you said it was smart, but it wasn't the most sophisticated. what we have read, what we have heard, sit true? mott torman dropping up epo. >> were you in the 2000 tour, stopping at a hotel, tyler hamilton says you stopped at a hotel. >> i'm confused on the stages. but certainly that was -- >> in the middle of the tour, tyler hamilton said that there would be times when you all were injecting epo in a camper or in a tent and right outside the fans would be outside and you all would be dumping the
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syringes in coke cans. is that true? >> i didn't read tyler's book. i don't necessarily remember that, but i'm certainly not going to say that's a lie, that's not true. >> i still think we can take that to mean it was true, sort of near to a confession. he didn't seem very apologetic from his view to me. >> he has never been one that's been super apologetic. i don't think he ever apologized back in the day when we were teammates for a whole lot of anything really. he doesn't show a whole lot of emotion. and last night i did see for lance armstrong, quite a bit of emotion. >> by his standards. >> by his standards, sure. >> i want to come back to ask you, how good of a rider would he have been if not for the doping?
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back now with my exclusive interview with tyler hamilton. i'll play you a clip first, but the question is would lance armstrong have been as good a rider to have won anyway? lths see what he had to say about that? >> you said to me earlier, you don't think it was possible to win without doping? >> not in that generation, and
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i'm not here to talk about others in that generation, it's been well documented. i didn't invent the culture, but i didn't try to stop the culture. that's my mistake and that's what i have to be sorry for. and the sport is now paying the price because of that and so i am sorry for that. >> would he have been the best anyway, tyler? was all this worth the torment you now have to live with? >> not one bit. not one bit. if everybody else or the people who were doping and he wasn't, he wouldn't have won. if everyone was 100% clean? i don't think he would have won seven detours. his success when he learned to ride a bike and learned to ride it in road races, he was one of the best early on. >> he said he never feared being
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caught, which i find extremely hard to believe given the scale of the deception with the swiss bank accounts and the secret pass words and everything else, he clearly was going a long way to hide it. do you think he was being honest when he didn't think he would be caught? >> we had code words for this and that and everything and secret phones and all that, so it's hard to believe that he wasn't afraid of getting caught. but, you know, maybe he wasn't. maybe that's how we're different. you know, he's like no other person i have ever met. his desire to win was, you know, was much greater than mine, that's for sure. >> do you feel sorry for him? >> he had to win. i would have liked to win. >> that's the difference in many great champions. >> he was cut for it. he was cut for it. >> do you feel sorry for him?
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i mean he trashed you. >> do i feel sorry for him? you know, yes and no. yes, because, but just watching him last night on tv, i haven't southeastern him last time he approached me in aspen about a year and a half ago. i haven't seen him since then. >> what did he say to you then? >> just some unkind words that he was going to make my life a living held both in the courtroom and out. >> so it was a real threat. >> a federal investigation was going on. >> he was bullying you then? >> i was very angry for those -- for that encounter. for a long time, and scared for a while too, because he's a powerful guy and i did take those words seriously. but still, i'm not a vin d vind person, i don't like to see anybody suffer. >> what would you like to say to him now if you had a chance, just you and him in a room.
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>> last night on oprah was the first step, so a pat on your back for that, congratulations, good for you for doing that, it's just a small step. but the first accept is tstep i hardest and now you have to continue and the next step is testifying in front of usada and the world doping association. and naming names, it's not pleasant, but he needs to do it. there are other people involved in this whole fiasco. >> he's been apologizing to a lot of people. he's been sending e-mails from journalists, others have had phone calls and so on. would you like him to pick up the phone to you or drop you a line to say sorry? >> i prefer he spends that time he would spend with me with someone like like o'reilly or bet betsy andrea.
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there are plenty of people where it's a lot more raw, betsy andrea, from some of those videos you could see last night. >> i don't know if he's spoken to her yet, it sounds like he's tried to reach out to her, but he owes her, he needs to fly over there and meet with her face to face. >> does any of the success that you had with him count for anything now? or is it all completely discredited? >> it counts for a lot of things, a lot of life -- i learned a lot of hard lessons and i'm a much better person for it today. you know, but all the results on the bike, i look at my whole career as one crazy fiasco, you can delete my name off all the results, that's absolutely fine. >> tyler, it's been fascinating talking to you, it must have been an extraordinary experience to watch that interview last night, finally seeing the man who was your leader t mentor,
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the gentleman of the team finally confessing. >> suzanna, a fascinating interview there with tyler. >> piers, it's kind of sad to say he's perfectly fine erasing all the books in his career because of cycling. i understand that you have another big interview tonight, charlie sheen weighing in on this as well? >> yes, it's actually a way mature or a very different sounding charlie sheen. but he had a pretty ruined and testy encounter with himself a few years back. >> the other big choir is the lance armstrong. what is your view of him? >> i met him once at a party and i'm assuming he was in a bad mood. as he wasn't the friendliest guy in the room. but i'm sure people have said that about me, from time to time. not too often, because i'm pretty approachable. >> what did he say to you? >> i said mr. armstrong, i'm sorry to bother you, i sahi nam
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charlie sheen and i would to shake your hand and he said that's nice. >> it is hilarious and moving in parts. a very different sounding, different looking charlie sheen. much more mature. i think people will enjoy it very much. >> looking forward to it, piers. thanks again. a look at this disgraced cyclist, the world according to lance armstrong this saturday at 10:00 p.m. eastern. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% (testosterone gel). the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy, increases testosterone when used daily. women and children should avoid contact with application sites.
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former presidential candidate newt gingrich walked into a restaurant for a quiet dinner. here's what he got instead, a role in nbc's "parks and recreation." they were shooting a scene in the restaurant. they couldn't resist writing him into the script. that's right. it was just a quick cameo, but he delivered his line on cue. watch. >> gingrich, gergich, i wonder if we're related. >> i don't think so, jerry. >> okay. >> gingrich isn't only a well known politician on the show. vice president biden, senator john mccain, senator barbara boxer and olympia snowe all made cameos. clinton said president obama went from a five-stroke lead to a one-stroke lead during their
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last game, their game last month. he joked about the incident at an event in palm springs, california, telling the crowd, i'm only one down and he leaves at hole 13, and says, got to go. clinton didn't accuse the president of ducking out to avoid a loss, but he admitted playing the presidential card himself in the past. and just in time for an inauguration, the white house releasing a new official portrait photo of the president, shows him smiling with his arms folded, standing in front of his desk in the oval office. the president has more gray hair than four years ago and, of course, speaking of hair, first lady michelle obama rocking a new do, has some bangs. michelle obama debuting the new look yesterday. that was actually her 49th birthday as well. happy birthday. monday, not just the day of president obama's second inauguration. it is also martin luther king jr. day. i spoke with the reverend king's youngest child bernice king at the martin luther king center here in atlanta about her new children's book and how she
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thinks we should remember her father and his message. >> dr. king's work and his mission and his messages are important to the future of our nation. and although we have come a long way, we still have to finish the work of dr. king. this is the 50th anniversary year i have a dream speech. and so we thought it aprapo to put his words in print. so there are wonderful oil paintings throughout. very few people are able to capture him and i think he's done just a wonderful job here. >> what do you think is the most important thing you can do to serve your community on this day? >> what i think is most important is that you serve. you know, we know that the famous quote now, everybody can
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be great because anybody can serve. all you need is a heart full of grace and a soul generated by love. and so this day is an opportunity, every year for people to graduate. and what i mean by that is service is really about others. and we live in a very self-centered society, some would say we're very narcissistic. but this holiday occurs at the beginning of the year. so it almost is right in your face at that time of year you make new year's resolutions, and so why not use even the king holiday to say, this year i'm going to find a way to be even more other centered. and that expresses itself in a lot of different forms. it could be the fact that i spent a lot of time, you know, hoarding, you know, hurting, pain and anger. i'm going to forgive somebody
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today. that's serving. that's healing. that creates community. that creates fellowship. so whether you're going to do something for little kids and an orphan home, if you're going to do some cleanup in a community, but i would hope people do some personal things too because we look at service as an outward act, but i think true service comes from the heart, and it is the heart connecting with another heart. and there is so many people that feel ignored every day, not paid attention to. and even -- this sounds kind of, you know, maybe shallow for some people, but to hug somebody, with a genuine hug on that day, particularly somebody that may be different from you. >> sure. >> can be so relieving and it can add so much to who we are as humanity. >> i'm going to give you a hug. thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> such a pleasure to meet her and to talk to her again.
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one of the things she talked about as well that we are also going to be airing later over the weekend and that really is all about what she believes should be the president's priorities coming into the next administration, second administration. she talks about the need to address disparities and the african-american community, and the wider population, when it comes to poverty. she also talked about immigration reform, the fact that dealing with latino community and immigration reform is something that she would like to see the president accomplish. and, of course, the very, very special occasion to actually have her father's bible being used for the president to take the oath of office. listen to this. >> although we have come a long way, we still have to finish the work of dr. king. so symbolically, it is time that movement into his presidency and saying that we have got some serious work to do. and it

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